Reaction to Blog

So the blog was written, in my opinion, to get a rise out of the audience while bringing a different perspective to the table on the latest issue the Trump has. At the moment it's how the players of the NFL have taken a knee during the National Anthem. In a rally in Alabama, he said that the owners of the teams needed to fire the S.O.Bs. Such strong language is used to keep his followers happy. I don't agree with the statement that the "politicians decided that we needed another war". We didn't go into World War One and Two because we needed another war, we went into those wars in order to help those how couldn't fight and win without help. I think the blog served the purpose it was meant to, inform while making a stance that is a sure way to get a reaction from the readers.

Fwd: white christians v. black christians and the protests

Thanks for sending this link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heres-what-many-white-christians-fail-to-understand-about-the-nfl-protests_us_59cbbd56e4b02aef6cd6a031

Its an interesting story / idea, suggesting that Black and White Christians have different attitudes about protest.

I thought I would compare it to one national survey, the General Social Survey.  I did a few quick tables looking only at people that identified as Christian (Protestant, Catholic, or other Christian were the answer choices), then examining how Blacks and Whites within these Christian groups responded differently to questions about protest.  While I think the author may be right, the evidence in this national random poll suggests that Black Christians are more likely to support protest in most cases, but that the difference is small and not statistically significant.

This first question asks if youthful protest is good. You can see that Blacks are more likely to strongly agree, but that whites are more likely to agree.  Also, the P value (below the chart on the right) is .09, which is above .05, thus showing that the difference between Black and White Christians in regards to their answer on this question is not a statistically significant difference.  

Black Christians would rather go on a protest march than white Christians, and this difference is not statistically significant.  Among Christians, Blacks are more likely to say they definitely would, and whites are more likely to say they probably would not.  The difference is not statistically significant.  

 

While Black Christians are more likely to say they would join a protest, white Christians are more likely to say they have actually attended a protest (but again the difference is not statistically significant), 

The last chart I ran asked if anti-government protest should be allowed.  There is a small (statistically insignificant) difference whereby Blacks are more likely to support protest,

My conclusion is that while I think the author of the Huffington Post article has some interesting ideas, the General Social Survey shows very limited support. 

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From: denny kubal <jdkubal@aol.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:36 PM
Subject: white christians v. black christians and the protests
To: mkubal@indylaw.net, tkubal@csufresno.edu


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heres-what-many-white-christians-fail-to-understand-about-the-nfl-protests_us_59cbbd56e4b02aef6cd6a031

Denny Kubal
jdkubal@aol.com

uncivil discourse and the Trump Phenomenon

I don't like to see any restrictions on speech, I shudder when I see protests at Berkeley.  I note the far left has also condemned such actions, both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren condemned the protests.  Warren in effect said let her speak, a few people will show up and she will largely be ignored.   

As one writer in your blog said,    Trump is using race and patriotism for political purposes.   

I don't buy trump is a racist, he above all is fixated on winning, defined as making money, receiving praise,  being labeled a winner.  I know he has a history in Real Estate of discrimination against blacks.  I suggest that was a marketing move, he could sell more condos for more money if no blacks were invited, at least he thought so.   his comments against hispanics, muslims blacks all for the benefit of praise and adoration by the base.  I think his health care plan was in the tank, not going to pass and he comes out with this patriotic stuff about the NFL players.  Kopernick taking the knee was largely old news, in a few weeks completely forgotten.   he resurrected it knowing it would inflame the right and deflect criticism from his failing efforts to repeal obamacare.   I think he has no principals conservative or liberal, racists or progressive.  he does and says whatever he needs to stoke his ego.  

I watched the Vietnam doc. last night and saw Spiro Agnew spouted off about how the anti-war protestors were not only unpatriotic, putting our soldiers at risk but dangerous.  they all want to destroy our country.   in response the black student  president of the Northwestern University  explained she and her followers condemned violence, and were just wanting a civil discussion

  and pointed out that Agnew was trying to frighten the public and thereby divide us in his attempt to promote the war.   I called mom in and played it again.  it all sounded so familiar.   

Denny Kubal
jdkubal@aol.com

participation assignent

When it comes to this issue I think that the way that Trump handled it was way out of proportion. He could have said things in a different way and not call them the things that he did. Personally I don't think that taking a knee is offensive but everyone has a different view and different perspective on the issue. When you said ,"Is this a sign of racism that he ignores or dismisses issues important to Black and Brown people? No but it says a lot about Trump's base and definitely shows Trump is taking sides in a culture war." I disagree with you that he is not racist, I believe that is a form of racism in some sense. This is because in all if you weren't even a little bit racist you would do anything to help anyone despite the color of their skin, especially since he is the president. He is so quickly to defend and help white but anyone he couldn't care less. In all this is an issue that is occurring and I think that he needs to reconsider the way that he came upon the situation and repress his opinion the the NFL.